tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8172600040007166978.post6935155544160582824..comments2023-09-06T10:36:17.025-04:00Comments on Wilderness Fandango: Saturday Odds & EndsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8172600040007166978.post-26831973656719262932010-06-06T20:14:45.000-04:002010-06-06T20:14:45.000-04:00Amy, nice of you to drop by. I read the review an...Amy, nice of you to drop by. I read the review and found it quite interesting. I'll certainly be putting the book on my to-read list. Thanks for the recommendation.<br /><br />I think it's hard for us to imagine something other than this program-driven church blueprint, something more truly deserving of the name "community." But we must try to imagine it, I think.<br /><br />Thanks again for your contribution to the dialog!Bob Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06400471363764020869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8172600040007166978.post-39356320842876821722010-06-06T19:26:55.039-04:002010-06-06T19:26:55.039-04:00Bob,
I found my blog was linked to yours...I was i...Bob,<br />I found my blog was linked to yours...I was intrigued. As a pastor's kid I grew up hearing the message of gotta volunteer and get involved in all kinds of things. My Dad wasn't the senior pastor but was pushed on staff to be at everything. He isn't really in my memories as a child apart from wonderful, family camping vacations. Thankfully, I didn't get bitter toward the church. Churches that are program driven need a lot of volunteers to make them run. But we need to question why do we have the various programs. <br /><br />It is a marketing driven mindset that is adopted when churches pump lots of programs! Another book that looks at this is called The Courage to Be Protestant by David F. Wells (a favorite of mine). My husband wrote a book review on it on his blog: <a href="http://summitperspective.blogspot.com/2009/03/book-review-courage-to-be-protestant.html" rel="nofollow">Summit Perspective</a><br /><br />It may be similar or at a different angle to your All We Like Sheep book.<br /><br />Thanks for the link! I had a great weekend away soaking in His Presence in a beautiful area of Oregon!<br />AmyAmy Guerinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01729880742850937752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8172600040007166978.post-77955005754701244322010-06-06T08:37:29.577-04:002010-06-06T08:37:29.577-04:00Ted, I guess my criticism of Warren sounds harsh, ...Ted, I guess my criticism of Warren sounds harsh, but in fact I do respect the man. Still, this gauntlet-throwing preaching, where the preacher challenges the congregation to get involved in church stuff, is exactly the wrong emphasis. Warren's blanket description of those who are not "mobilized" (those who"passively just want to sit around in the next 10 years and just waste your life on things that won't last"} is just purely self-serving, a straw man if there ever was one, and will only cause guilt-induced church busyness, with such church busyness becomeing the standard of "leadership."<br /><br />Now, I realize I'm hearing Warren "out of context," not having read or heard the whole sermon, but this quote is representative of a lot of pastoral prodding masquerading as the preaching of the Gospel.Bob Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06400471363764020869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8172600040007166978.post-60704387648535056432010-06-05T20:12:51.675-04:002010-06-05T20:12:51.675-04:00Bob, Interesting thoughts here. Checking in. Not s...Bob, Interesting thoughts here. Checking in. Not sure on Rick Warren's statement. I'm not a follower of him. I find good from him, though not a particular fan of his purpose driven writings. I would be uncomfortable with it myself, and agree with your thoughts a bout church programs. I guess I'd want to ask questions and inquire. But we certainly can be driven more by programs than by the mission of God and the work of God. And an important part of that is right in our home, as you say.Ted M. Gossardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10580691315315271791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8172600040007166978.post-24511805720893182042010-06-05T16:04:49.819-04:002010-06-05T16:04:49.819-04:00Very nice. Brought back some memories. I love th...Very nice. Brought back some memories. I love those Southern rock bands (or whatever you want to call them).Bob Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06400471363764020869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8172600040007166978.post-8796567582901303412010-06-05T14:04:52.058-04:002010-06-05T14:04:52.058-04:00here is a little somethin for your weekend listeni...here is a little somethin for your weekend listening (hopefully) pleasure.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-vrTqobQ50&feature=relatedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8172600040007166978.post-29565105528589386202010-06-05T12:11:33.205-04:002010-06-05T12:11:33.205-04:00the entry into the 1937 written book is a wonderfu...the entry into the 1937 written book is a wonderful step.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com