tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8172600040007166978.post263673920663955602..comments2023-09-06T10:36:17.025-04:00Comments on Wilderness Fandango: ApologeticsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8172600040007166978.post-43810955201190107122010-08-26T12:08:59.652-04:002010-08-26T12:08:59.652-04:00one more thought, we are not outsiders to God.
and...one more thought, we are not outsiders to God.<br />and we are not outsiders in a gathering "of believers".<br /><br />we just think that we are.<br /><br />but, we are outsiders in the world.<br /><br />strange that we feel more comfortable most of the time in the world than in the gatherings.<br /><br />we are more aware of one another's sinful nature in the gatherings...yet, it is swept aside like it does not exist.<br />our brokeness and hunger is not being addressed in the way that makes us feel part of..but it is made to make us feel guilty and unwelcome. just one point of view here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8172600040007166978.post-728116921850937282010-08-26T11:59:26.613-04:002010-08-26T11:59:26.613-04:00i understand perfectly in what you say that you br...i understand perfectly in what you say that you brought. <br /><br />how can anyone come to anything any other way? <br /><br />we come as we really are, human.<br /><br />yet, i wonder...can the "way" we come be altered a bit, would it make a difference? and how big of a difference?<br /><br />you see, i know that some have kids and hurry, yell, scramble, get angry..etc. before they come smiling. it is the smiling that i wonder about. and what in the world do the kids get from this display? the yelling is usual human stuff, but the instant smile face?<br />what is that about?<br />and that is just on sunday...<br />what about monday thru saturday?<br /><br />i was asking the questions, not as a "finger pointing", but because i am curious of what you and others think. <br /><br />i truly wonder if it is the hunger...the "increase" of hunger over all, in everyone...and maybe bacause of the things and people that "we" are "going to"... in place of humbly before our Lord.<br /><br />the less "we all" come before our Lord, perhaps the "hungrier" we get.<br /><br />we are "always"<br /> hungry and broken...but, we can get even "more" hungry.<br /><br /><br /><br />okay, now we come to the gathering:<br /><br />the Spirit of God is certainly already there, Jesus is there, right? He sees all that is going on, and is in those that are His. The ones that he is familiar with. Right?<br /><br />now, the music...all good. (ragtime really good.)<br /><br />the people...some a little hungry some in "ravenous" hunger mode.<br /><br />the surrouondings, room, seats...etc. good 'nuf.<br /><br />the word, well, you may have something here... is the word feeding the people? is it pointing the human hunger to Jesus? is it reminding the people who to turn to? the basic food and drink? ah ha...hum...well?<br /><br />what to do, what to do?<br /><br />are we suppose to be doing something?<br /><br />are "we" suppost to be reminding one another where to look while we are in the gathering, if it is not being done?<br /><br />i don't know.<br />maybe so.<br /><br />look to Jesus.<br /><br />three words.<br />could they make a difference?<br /><br />the word Jesus alone.<br /><br />pretty powerful is used in the right way.<br /><br />i think that you ane i and a lot of others would like to do something.<br /><br />i think maybe we could start small.<br />i don't know.<br />feeding and reminding in the places that we go, maybe.<br /><br />what do you think?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8172600040007166978.post-75995705139336124082010-08-25T18:00:53.447-04:002010-08-25T18:00:53.447-04:00I don't know what I brought to the church that...I don't know what I brought to the church that morning. I'm quite sure I wasn't in some sort of ideal church-going state. Maybe the most I can say for myself is that I was hungry for something that wasn't on offer there.<br /><br />In terms of being "giving and understanding," I want to say that I've got nothing against those folks. They seemed like an earnest bunch. As an outsider, I simply relay my impressions. I am not the leastways commenting on behavior, only the content of the message. Neither the wooden pews, nor the music, nor the people put me off in the least. The old gal playing piano even inserted a hint of ragtime at one point, which made me smile. <br /><br />I think it definitely does make a difference which attitude you come in with. Maybe my post made it seem I came in with a critical attitude, but I was hoping to hear the gospel preached. Even a message about "defending the faith," which is to say, apologetics, an be couched in the context of the gospel.Bob Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06400471363764020869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8172600040007166978.post-50782119441078726802010-08-25T17:25:39.284-04:002010-08-25T17:25:39.284-04:00actually.
adam did have a good question for you.
...actually.<br />adam did have a good question for you.<br /><br />what did you bring to the chruch that day?<br /><br />should we come to the service having already spent some time with our Lord?<br /><br />does it make a difference, what attitiude and mood we are in when when we go out of our door?<br /><br />is it easier to be giving and understanding to people outside of a church service?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8172600040007166978.post-48295999994110518432010-08-25T11:23:15.890-04:002010-08-25T11:23:15.890-04:00I think a lot of times that apologetics thing come...I think a lot of times that apologetics thing comes from people who just got done studying it in Bible school, or just finished a book on the subject or something. Then they either want to show off that their knowledge on the subject is quite refined, or they're simply hyped up about it and can't understand why it wouldn't turn everyone else on also. <br /><br />As opposed to the type of apologetics that comes from a deep existential need of the moment. Perhaps a relationship in which a loved one is driving themselves into oblivion, or an event which has some article of faith crumbling, or havoc is being wreaked on the conscience, or something like that. But at that point, I would think apologetics sounds even more like drinking from the living water of the Gospel than debate.Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13081425114154607112noreply@blogger.com